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Trimble R10 vs Topcon Hiper HR vs Geomax Zenith35 Pro
Posted by martinbolivia3 on May 11, 2017 at 11:03 amHello everyone
I would like someone to give his/her thoughts regarding any of this GNSS systems?
Iå«m trying to purchase one of these, and friends from other countries have suggested me one if this devices. However I dont have too much experience and it would be very helpful to get a second opinion.Any thoughts guys?
Many thanks!
Norman_Oklahoma replied 4 years, 7 months ago 22 Members · 42 Replies- 42 Replies
I use The R10, its best System I have used. I have never see anything negative on the forums other than the price
#1 thing to do nowadays is to determine the software you want to run.
#2 thing is determine the DC you want to run.Then you can start looking at GPS heads.
toivo1037, post: 427804, member: 973 wrote: #1 thing to do nowadays is to determine the software you want to run.
#2 thing is determine the DC you want to run.Then you can start looking at GPS heads.
Im looking to use the GPS for a cadastral survey, Which one would you recommend?
Perpaps the pros and cons of these equipments?I currently have a pair of Topcon Hiper HR’s for testin, this week.
So far here’s is what I have noticed:Lot’s of SV’s can see NAVSTAR, GLONASS, GALILEO, and BDS, also L2C and L5
Seeing 3 GALILEO and 2 BDS
Seeing about 5-6 SV’s with L5 and about 8 SV’s with L2C
Tilt is nice. But instructions say it must re-calibrated every 10å¡ change in temperature, every time to enter a new site, every time removing receiver from a vehicle, etc. Takes about 5 minutes to calibrate, and they suggest using a tripod and tribrach
Battery mount tabs are very week and appear they will fail.
Lot’s of lights. Turning off takes some patients, appears at first not working. Takes about 2 minutes to turn off after you press and hold button for 5 seconds.leegreen, post: 427863, member: 2332 wrote: Tilt is nice. But instructions say it must re-calibrated every 10å¡ change in temperature, every time to enter a new site, every time removing receiver from a vehicle, etc.
I think this is true if all the tilt sensors, which is the reason I don’t use the tilt feature in my Javad. It’s too much of a PITA.
The Leica GS16 is hands down the most reliable and accurate receiver on the market today. I would put it against anything. Its RTK plus and Smartcheck give it a 99.9% reliability. No other manufacture can claim that.
The tilt sensors are a joke on the R10 and Topcon are a joke. I guarantee you will turn them off.
I dont often use the tilt sensor in my javad…
Because… Apparently, ppk does not work from tilt data.
So, you will get shot spread, between ppk, and rtk.
[USER=10]@Jim Frame[/USER] there is a fast index to plumb that takes about 30 seconds. But, want my ppk and rtk to be synonymous… So, I dont do it.Peyton, post: 427897, member: 12539 wrote: No other manufacture can claim that.
On the contrary, any manufacturer can claim that.
TickMagnet, post: 427784, member: 4378 wrote: I use The R10, its best System I have used. I have never see anything negative on the forums other than the price
I approve that message! R10 is Bad A$$. Or Javad-LS. Only two I would consider.
StLSurveyor, post: 427915, member: 7070 wrote: I approve that message! R10 is Bad A$$. Or Javad-LS. Only two I would consider.
Stay tuned…there will be a side-by side comparison of the R10 and Javad -LS brought to you by two members of this board [USER=1138]@mattsib79[/USER]
It’s overdue.
Time to find out!
NateI recently did a demonstration for a local surveyor. He is currently running BR6 and BR5 Carlson network rovers. He had used them as base rover in the past but typically uses them as network rovers. He called me in to see if the Javad Triumph LS would perform better. He had taken his BR6 to a site that he couldn’t not get a good fix on a couple of stones. We wanted to compare apples to apples so used the LS as a network rover.
I was able to get a fixed solution I was happy with in about 7 minutes time. I suggested he traverse in as a double check for his own assurance. He checked into the stone within 0.03′ with the RTK shot.
It makes the mfr’s nervous, for the users of equipment, to do their own comparisons.
But, I think its best if we do it.
Nothing else will propel this technology more, than an open comparison.
Being a surveyor, first, this makes me happy. It will tend to propel the profession, “into the light”.
NI can’t comment on the DC and software part on Trimble and Topcon, but if we’re looking strictly on the GNSS receivers alone, the Geomax Zenith35 Pro TAG, in my opinion, is hands down the best receiver between the three you mentioned – the price, the functionality, the accuracy and future-proof concept is all there. The third frequency (e.g. GPS L5) is already included in the price so you won’t have to pay for that extra later on; the price for Galileo and BeiDou activation is the lowest i have seen on the market, the tilt functionality is GREAT, because you can turn off the automatic correction of the pole tilt that uses compass (which gives errors and requires calibration every time you want to use the receiver) and just use the internal tilt sensor – you still have to keep the pole vertical but now you can see the level bubble on the screen of your DC, it takes the shot only if the pole is inside defined tolerances from the verticality, and automatic measuring of long linear objects (e.g. roads) because of this is really easy and fast. Also you can still measure a point with a tilted pole, but you just have to take at least 2 measurements instead of one. Please correct me if i’m wrong, but i think Trimble and Topcon doesn’t offer this functionality (to disable the compass and just use the tilt sensor alone). The Geomax also has GSM and Radio modules built-in by default, so you can use it as a base or rover.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 427940, member: 291 wrote: It makes the mfr’s nervous, for the users of equipment, to do their own comparisons.
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I would agree with this statement and rightfully so. Unless the process and procedures are well documented, the resulting information. It is very difficult to do true comparisons unless there is considerable thought given to exactly how this will work in the field. Too often I see people taking about comparisons and while they would provide results, they wouldn’t be overly reliable as their procedure was lacking.
Nate The Surveyor, post: 427928, member: 291 wrote: It’s overdue.
Time to find out!
NateThe Rumble in the Jungle.
So far I’ve been extremely impressed with the Geomax Zenith 35 Pro. It has the same 555 channel Novatel board as the Leica GS16, and seems to perform at a similar level.
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StLSurveyor, post: 427916, member: 7070 wrote: Stay tuned…there will be a side-by side comparison of the R10 and Javad -LS brought to you by two members of this board [USER=1138]@mattsib79[/USER]
Interested to see these results. We run R10’s and I’ve been intrigued by the javad units for a while now
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