SurvNet User Group

[rundatline]

So far as I know a Carlson raw file only actively lists the new stored coordinate. The actual shot data and residuals are only stored as “notes”.

You’ll probably have to edit the raw file manually to get what you want.

[totalsurv]

I use Survnet at the moment but have never used resection data. I have never been able to get Topcon data in correctly but have no problem with Trimble.

I am about to abandon Survnet for TBC as I have not been able to get an issue resolved and am sick of being treated like a crank by Carlson.

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[peter-lothian]

I’m not familiar enough with Magnet data collection, but my guess is that it stores the resection measurements as notes, just as the Carlson data collection software does. The Star*Net conversion software is probably programmed to recognize this, whereas the Carlson office software does not. As Rundatline stated, you can manually edit the resection data from note records to observations. I find this to be a pain in the tookus, since the data in the note line is presented in a different order than in the measurement data line. (You have to swap zenith angle and slope distance positions, IIRC). I just have the field crew re-measure their resection shots, with new point numbers, since most of our resections are on small house lot surveys. I then re-number the measurements to match the control points.

[ladd-nelson]

Posted by: @mark-mayer

I’m a longtime StarNet user. Recently I’ve acquired access to Carlson Survey 2020 and wish to learn how to use SurvNet.  I’m collecting data using a Topcon PS and Tesla/Magnet. I can output raw data from that in TDS .raw, SurvCE .rw5, C3d .fbk, or any of several other formats.

I like to orient my instrument using resectioning when doing topo. The resection ties are present in the raw data files – when I convert the raw data to StarNet .dat in StarNet they are there. But when I import them to SurvNet only the coordinate position comes over. True with any of the raw data formats I’ve tried so far. And that is not good enough, IMO. The common set-up-on-a point data comes over just fine.

So – before I elevate this to Carlson – I’d like to know if any of you who are using SurvNet have had this problem.  Is it just a Magnet thing? of is it SurvNet?

I’d also like to hear from you if you are a SurvNet user even if you aren’t doing resectioning. 

My first question is which program is being used to “output raw data from that in TDS .raw, SurvCE .rw5, C3d .fbk, or any of several other formats“?

Since you indicated you have Carlson Survey, you might explore the Survey — Edit-Process Raw Data command. From this command’s dialog box, choose File — Import and import the raw file as provided by the collector (e.g. *.raw format). Issue the File — Save Raw As and save it to the RW5 format.

You should be able explore the data within SurvNET and use the RW5 for input in either of the Total Station Data or GPS Vector input areas.

I had re-worked the legacy interface of the SurvNET documentation in preparation for the Carlson 2020 release about 2 years ago and handed it off to my colleagues for the new interface it was given. Knowing there might be some out here who prefer the legacy interface, I’ll be happy to provide the pre-change source HTML files (you can view them with a browser). Simply drop me an Email (lnelsonATcarlsonswDOTcom) and I’ll point you to where you can find the content.

[Norman_Oklahoma]

@ladd-nelson

Thanks for chiming in, Ladd.

My first question is which program is being used to “output raw data from that in TDS .raw, SurvCE .rw5, C3d .fbk, or any of several other formats“?

The Data collector. ie/ Magnet software. I can out put the raw data file from it in any of a couple dozen file formats. Possibly there is an option among these that will work better in SurvNet? I should add that this is not unusual. I was able to do similarly from SP Survey Pro and Trimble Access. 

Since you indicated you have Carlson Survey, you might explore the Survey – Edit-Process Raw Data command. From this command’s dialog box, choose File — Import and import the raw file as provided by the collector (e.g. *.raw format). Issue the File — Save Raw As and save it to the RW5 format.

Yeeahh, been there, did that. No love.

I do suspect that this has something to do with what Magnet is outputting, because the StarNet conversion of the TDS.raw is not perfect. ie/ the measurements are there but significant editing is required to whip it into shape. I have access to some .raw files that came out of SP Survey Pro and Access. I’ll have to see how SurvNet likes those.