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Rather than just describing a survey marker as a pin, I will get information about the size, the depth or condition. There is a list of found and set objects on the prepared map with that description. Each survey marker on the map has a point number that is referenced to the list.

Occasionally I will get tripped up on the diameter by someone questioning the description. It goes something like “is that the inside diameter or the outside diameter?” My reply should be that I really just meant to call it a pin.

Seriously, if I were a plumber then I could more easily understand the importance of making the distinction. However, the purpose of my description is to make the mark recognizable to the next person finding it. Recognizing the evidence that was uncovered in the case and described in such a way that is unmistakable. That is my goal, but, the propensity of people to intentionally misunderstand something is uncanny.

So, if my description of a 0.12 feet diameter galvanized pipe found down 0.5 feet gets picked apart because I did not include whether the diameter was the inside diameter or the outside diameter I haven’t failed. If I am in a good mood I will explain that a pipe that is hammered into the ground to mark a survey corner will be damaged as a result. It is easier to measure the outside diameter with a caliper on a section of the pipe somewhere below the top…

On second thought, why not just call it a pin.   

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Peter Ehlert
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because 50 years from now it will matter


learn to communicate

Scott Ellis
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If you can to a 1 inch pipe, and the next guy finds a 1 or 1.25  inch pipe he is going to know its the same pipe.

If you can a to a 1 inch pipe and the next guy finds a 2 inch pipe, questions needs to be ask.

If you call to a pin, you need to add some details like what size pin, is it a rod or pipe, capped, what is stamped on the cap.

In the notes I say 5/8" x 24" rebar with orange cap, however I rarely ever get the length of any pin I find. Just the diameter.  

Tommy Young
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I have banned the word pin in this office from going on any plat and any description. 

I've seen pin used to describe rebar, pipes, axles, steering columns, flat bars, etc..... just on things in this office.

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Certainly need more description than "pin". I don't know how specific you need to get, but a metal cap of appropriate material for your area sure helps..

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