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holy cow
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We have had a huge survey project take place in a neighboring county with most of the work happening two to three years ago.  Plenty of land survey reference reports to be filed (200-300).  Last week I was looking for information in that general area and discovered those reports were filed recently.  An obvious case of nothing being filed until the overall job was completed.  This happens all the time along DOT projects.  The situation above was for a big wind farm covering many sections.

Speaking of wind farms.  There is such a project in my home county now.  To the best of my knowledge no surveyor connected with surveying over 100 sections has found their way into the county surveyor office to find records on section corners.  Hub Tack info is a fraction of what is needed to do the job correctly.

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Speaking of wind farms.  There is such a project in my home county now.  To the best of my knowledge no surveyor connected with surveying over 100 sections has found their way into the county surveyor office to find records on section corners.  Hub Tack info is a fraction of what is needed to do the job correctly.

There is a survey in the next section done by a guy from out of state (13 state licenses and CFEDS!) who lists wind projects among his specialties.

There is a big wind project that goes for miles and miles all around the wife's land but they didn't opt to build on hers.  They wanted to run the underground cable  and also move the monster crane across her brother's land, but changed their minds.  He severely restricted the path they could use because he had heard it compresses the soil so much things don't like to grow and crushes tile where it's been.

Many of the locals complain about the turbines, for reasons of sight and sound.  A guy has been charged with shooting out the warning light on top of one.  Rumor is that there are cameras on there that identified him.  Makes you wonder where to take a leak out in your own field.

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I would bet the case with the adjoiner is one where the project got started but never completed due to the payment issue.  A common situation is one where it is discovered fairly early after arriving on site that the effort to do the job correctly will take significantly more time and effort than anyone would have guessed.  Being honest upfront with the client can result in being told to go home......NOW......because it isn't worth that much to the client to continue.  Neither the client nor the surveyor walks away happy in most cases.  The surveyor knows the client is a liar and a cheap skate and the client knows the surveyor is a liar and a greedy b@$%@rd.  We've all been told by the client how the site is wide-open and you could drive your Lincoln to every corner, plus he swears he has already seen several of the controlling monuments you will need to do his job.....................and none of that is accurate.

Attempting to finagle someone to provide information, whether by government edict or gentle coaxing, may not work without some sort of compensation. 

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I would bet the case with the adjoiner is one where the project got started but never completed due to the payment issue.  A common situation is one where it is discovered fairly early after arriving on site that the effort to do the job correctly will take significantly more time and effort than anyone would have guessed.  Being honest upfront with the client can result in being told to go home......NOW......because it isn't worth that much to the client to continue..

I can see that might happen a lot. 

In this case, the neighbor left the impression the work was done and an unexpectedly large bill presented without proper warning. I can see it being complicated, but the surveyor should have known that right away. 

The other side of the guy's land from us includes or abuts an abandoned railroad with pieces in various ownership, and includes or abuts several other small parcels that had been carved up long ago.  People are farming to the creek, railroad, and abandoned highway but that isn't where some of the lines fall.  It's likely there were no monuments on a lot of it and the deed descriptions won't mesh.

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Dont forget that you go home after you helped him find the monument that he thinks is the "center of section", you never get a chance to tie it in, and...

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Helped him find what "might be" the center of section monument, but without further work it don't mean squat.

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Like other places, its prescribed that I file a map within 90 days of the survey. My board of registration enforces this only if they are tipped off as to someone not doing so when they should. They usually give the surveyor a call to discuss and in almost all cases a map is filed post haste. I push this envelope sometime because physically going to file the map is a pain in the butt and I would rather wait until I have several before spending the time. 

I am licensed by the state to work on the behalf of the public so if I have information that should be shared with the public the simple fact that I was not paid for it is of no consequence. My BOR has made this clear in their publication and at public presentations that I've attended. 

I suggest that Bill just give the surveyor a call and chat with them about his wife's property. Or stop in with a sack of doughnuts and coffee or a fist full of old maps. The gentle approach is usually more effective (with me) than waiving a rule book in my face.  

 

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