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Posted by MightyMoe on January 20, 2020 at 4:00 pmDoing final review of 4 tracts that will clean up a boundary line between landowners, shifting from the deed lines to the old fence lines and basically making the existing property line the deed line.
So, I’ve been looking at the drawing and the descriptions correcting as I go. I print out the descriptions and the drawing and lay them on my table.
Funny how many things you see on the hard copy that are not noticed on the computer screen.
Probably the most offensive is a word salad in the descriptions for the tracts “as shown on as TRACT No.1 on EXHIBIT “B”, copy pasted that to all 4 descriptions and didn’t notice tell it’s on the hard copy.
Final red lines weren’t too bad but still it’s amazing what gets picked up with the papers in hand.
MightyMoe replied 4 years, 2 months ago 14 Members · 19 Replies- 19 Replies
You do see different things on the screen and on paper. After marking up a paper, when editing on the screen again I sometimes find other errors I missed both ways the first time.
.Our office is supposed to be going paperless.
That’s all very well, but they’ve made no provision for data and plans we need in the field. And there is a fair bit of that you can’t put into a TSC3…
You need an Ipad for the field, as well as a dc. Lots of construction supers are relying on those, for that, these days. And they all still have a full sized paper set stowed away somewhere.
@norman-oklahoma
> You need an Ipad for the field
Not an apple fan boy, so I’m hoping they decide to give us Trimble tablets
But I’m not holing my breath – we’ll probably get the cheapest and nastiest Android device they can find
I used a FC5000 tablet in the field. It was fine when it was nice, it was a colossal time waster in rain or snow. I’ll take paper copies all day long now.
- Posted by: @norman-oklahoma
You need an Ipad for the field, as well as a dc. Lots of construction supers are relying on those, for that, these days. And they all still have a full sized paper set stowed away somewhere.
Yes sir! We keep all of our plans on the cloud in Autodesk BIM360 Docs. They open the app on their IPads. The plans are always up to date unless the Project Engineer or Coordinator is slacking. You can overlay versions and see what has changed as well as make mark ups. The only place you’ll see a set of paper plans is in the job trailers. Out on the site, everyone has an Ipad. Even our subs. We used Bluebeam a lot at the last survey company I worked for. We’d have the plans, point plots and work orders all in one spot. You can take photos with the Ipad of as-builts or topo and attached those photos right to the plan in the location it was taken. Hit save and the office could check it out immediately.
everyone knows the ONLY way to catch the most glaring errors it to make the record set/ mylars…. filing/recording will also make an error show up like a neon sign….
That’s why I always used a second set of eyes. I would review, plot, and hand both the legal description and the plat to someone else. They would follow the description and match it to the numbers shown on the plat.
Andy
Yeah I am practically redlining myself as I walk back from the printer.
Or try looking at it the next day with a fresh set of eyes.
.went paperless- is that just for surveys or all documents?
Our local county clerk went totally paperless several years ago and have no hard copy files since 2005.
When there is a bug in their system or power outage or they are in the middle of an update, there is no way to search records.
Apparently, the company they contract with to provide the service does not allow them to have an in house backup drive of all their records.
I have always insisted that when one person writes and draws the paperwork another person proofs them before they are sent out.
Being solo gets me only so far before I can’t see an error.
Thank goodness for the fact that I send a data file to the closing agent and let their office staff do the proofreading for me, that is why I do not mind sharing a wpd or doc file with them so they don’t have to retype my work.
0.02
Next day looking works wonders.
Good question, quick answer is for all documents, but I’m unsure about surveys/plats.
Any survey filed with a deed will be only available as a scan, subdivisions and ROS’s we have been getting as scans for a while now but the actual plats are still hanging in the vault, I’m not sure if new ones will be.
The problem I’m already seeing is the time lag between them being executed and any documentation that the deed exists. The only place to get the new document number from a location is the GIS unless you buy access to Idoc for $1500 per year and I don’t know the lag with it. Also you can’t see a tract book or map or anything similar on Idoc.
Plus I don’t know how many mistakes get into your GIS but ours have been peppered with them, heck, my house was “owned” by the guy across the street for years until he sold, only then did I appear as the owner for my house on the county GIS.
I had the cleaning lady read a description for me once. Her questions helped a lot.
Value is everywhere if you look…
- Posted by: @jimcox
Not an apple fan boy, so I’m hoping they decide to give us Trimble tablets
“They” can buy 10 Ipads for the cost of a single Trimble tablet. Relax, its just for viewing the plans and maybe sending an email. It’s not a replacement for your field data collector (or logger, if you prefer). And there are always the android “solutions” if you just can’t stand it.
One of our counties went paperless on Jan. 1. I submitted a map and descriptions for a parcel split online just as they directed and was told that they still require a “live” signature on the parcel split form. When I asked them how that was going to work they said they’d get back to me…
We use several of them, had a hard time with the screens in rain or snow until we figured out that you can Rain-X treat the screen. The treatment plus the water touchscreen setting makes the DC usable. Although this discovery was after I almost chucked the FC5000 in a lake multiple times.
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