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MightyMoe
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Doing final review of 4 tracts that will clean up a boundary line between landowners, shifting from the deed lines to the old fence lines and basically making the existing property line the deed line. 

So, I've been looking at the drawing and the descriptions correcting as I go. I print out the descriptions and the drawing and lay them on my table.

Funny how many things you see on the hard copy that are not noticed on the computer screen.

Probably the most offensive is a word salad in the descriptions for the tracts "as shown on as TRACT No.1 on EXHIBIT "B", copy pasted that to all 4 descriptions and didn't notice tell it's on the hard copy. 

Final red lines weren't too bad but still it's amazing what gets picked up with the papers in hand. 

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Bill93
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You do see different things on the screen and on paper.  After marking up a paper, when editing on the screen again I sometimes find other errors I missed both ways the first time.

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Our office is supposed to be going paperless.

That's all very well, but they've made no provision for data and plans we need in the field. And there is a fair bit of that you can't put into a TSC3...

 

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@jimcox

You need an Ipad for the field, as well as a dc. Lots of construction supers are relying on those, for that, these days. And they all still have a full sized paper set stowed away somewhere.

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> You need an Ipad for the field

Not an apple fan boy, so I'm hoping they decide to give us Trimble tablets

But I'm not holing my breath - we'll probably get the cheapest and nastiest Android device they can find

 

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@jimcox

You need an Ipad for the field, as well as a dc. Lots of construction supers are relying on those, for that, these days. And they all still have a full sized paper set stowed away somewhere.

Yes sir!  We keep all of our plans on the cloud in Autodesk BIM360 Docs.  They open the app on their IPads.  The plans are always up to date unless the Project Engineer or Coordinator is slacking.  You can overlay versions and see what has changed as well as make mark ups.  The only place you'll see a set of paper plans is in the job trailers.  Out on the site, everyone has an Ipad.  Even our subs.  We used Bluebeam a lot at the last  survey company I worked for.  We'd have the plans, point plots and work orders all in one spot.  You can take photos with the Ipad of as-builts or topo and attached those photos right to the plan in the location it was taken.  Hit save and the office could check it out immediately.   

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They went paperless at the county clerk. Problem is there isn't a real time registry like the tract books. There will be a tract number recorded on the GIS, but the GIS is lagging behind at least a few weeks, probably more.

 

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@mightymoe

.went paperless- is that just for surveys or all documents?

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MightyMoe
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Good question, quick answer is for all documents, but I'm unsure about surveys/plats.

Any survey filed with a deed will be only available as a scan, subdivisions and ROS's we have been getting as scans for a while now but the actual plats are still hanging in the vault, I'm not sure if new ones will be. 

The problem I'm already seeing is the time lag between them being executed and any documentation that the deed exists. The only place to get the new document number from a location is the GIS unless you buy access to Idoc for $1500 per year and I don't know the lag with it. Also you can't see a tract book or map or anything similar on Idoc.

Plus I don't know how many mistakes get into your GIS but ours have been peppered with them, heck, my house was "owned" by the guy across the street for years until he sold, only then did I appear as the owner for my house on the county GIS. 

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Our local county clerk went totally paperless several years ago and have no hard copy files since 2005.

When there is a bug in their system or power outage or they are in the middle of an update, there is no way to search records.

Apparently, the company they contract with to provide the service does not allow them to have an in house backup drive of all their records.

I have always insisted that when one person writes and draws the paperwork another person proofs them before they are sent out.

Being solo gets me only so far before I can't see an error.

Thank goodness for the fact that I send a data file to the closing agent and let their office staff do the proofreading for me, that is why I do not mind sharing a wpd or doc file with them so they don't have to retype my work.

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@mightymoe

One of our counties went paperless on Jan. 1. I submitted a map and descriptions for a parcel split online just as they directed and was told that they still require a "live" signature on the parcel split form. When I asked them how that was going to work they said they'd get back to me...

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That's funny!!

Our BLA process requires live signatures from the two owners. Plus live stamps and signatures for a certificate of title, notaries, county commissioners, clerk, not sure how all this is going to pan out. 

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I used a FC5000 tablet in the field.  It was fine when it was nice, it was a colossal time waster in rain or snow.  I'll take paper copies all day long now.

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@bstrand

We use several of them, had a hard time with the screens in rain or snow until we figured out that you can Rain-X treat the screen. The treatment plus the water touchscreen setting makes the DC usable. Although this discovery was after I almost chucked the FC5000 in a lake multiple times.

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everyone knows the ONLY way to catch the most glaring errors it to make the record set/ mylars.... filing/recording will also make an error show up like a neon sign....

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