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Elevation Certificate – FEMA got it mostly right this time
Posted by stephen-ward on October 30, 2017 at 2:23 amI don’t do many of these any more, but I finally had one on Friday. I had a faint memory that FEMA had tweeked their fillable pdf back in the spring to address some of the input they’d received. With this in mind, I pulled down a fresh copy from FEMA and got down to filling it out.
I have to give them credit……it’s even better than mine. You can insert a jpg for your seal, the photo fields work, they created a caption line for each of the photos, number fields allow you to also enter N/A, and the address info auto-fills from page one onto the other pages. One issue I did notice is that several of the fields in sections A & C force you to enter data to the hundredth. Apparently to fix the former rounding error they forced these fields to a x.00 format where it will automatically change 111 or 111.1 to 111.10. In their defense, I couldn’t figure out how to make LiveCycle be flexible on the numeric formats either.
stephen-ward replied 6 years, 4 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies- 13 Replies
One other issue I ran into that I’ll throw out there in case it bites one of you down the road.
I took the required photos with my cellphone and of course the resulting files are huge. When I attached the first photo, it failed to display, and the form displayed a suggestion to limit each photo to 300 kb or less. I then used Paint to resize the photos and saved each with a new name. I inserted each of the resized photos into the image fields on the form but all I got was a faint outline and no image. After spending way too much time banging my head against my desk in frustration, I had a desperate idea. I opened the photos in the Photos app that comes with Win10, selected edit, then saved each with a new name. Miraculously, when I reinserted them they displayed.
There must’ve been something about the format that didn’t agree with the Adobe form.
Sounds like too much PIA. I will just keep using my Stephen Ward form. Nice try though. 😉
Brad Ott, post: 453199, member: 197 wrote: Sounds like too much PIA. I will just keep using my Stephen Ward form. Nice try though. 😉
I appreciate the vote of confidence, but my form is just a redo of their earlier effort with a few bugs fixed. My form doesn’t work with the photos resized by Paint either. You’d think that a jpg created by any program would work but the devil is in the details and some programs must not completely adhere to the jpg standards. Sort of like AutoCAD vs. Intellicad, most files are interchangeable, but some times not so much.
Stephen Ward, post: 453220, member: 1206 wrote: I appreciate the vote of confidence, but my form is just a redo of their earlier effort with a few bugs fixed. My form doesn’t work with the photos resized by Paint either. You’d think that a jpg created by any program would work but the devil is in the details and some programs must not completely adhere to the jpg standards. Sort of like AutoCAD vs. Intellicad, most files are interchangeable, but some times not so much.
I saw the photo problem too. My solution was save ordinal photos in backup folder. Opened each and resized to bring down file size and named each edited prior to entry. Their tool tells you max size of file. So I Just tweak my pic dimensions until file is small enough in bytes.
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Jawja, post: 453234, member: 12766 wrote: I saw the photo problem too. My solution was save ordinal photos in backup folder. Opened each and resized to bring down file size and named each edited prior to entry. Their tool tells you max size of file. So I Just tweak my pic dimensions until file is small enough in bytes.
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My seal is larger than the limit and still displayed in one of the photo fields, that was the clue that set me to looking at the file format. For whatever reason, a photo taken with a Samsung Note 8 then resized with Paint just wouldn’t display. Opened it in another package and did nothing but a save-as with a new file name and suddenly it would display when inserted into the form. I just put it out there so the next time someone hits the same snag they might spend a little less time banging their head on the desk.:)
The instructions still state to provide elevations to the nearest 0.1′. My elevations are all xx.x0′.
Have you tried FastStone image viewer for resizing? Works well.
As far as the form, I have been using Bluebeam Revu. It complains about the size, then takes it anyway.spledeus, post: 453241, member: 3579 wrote: complains about the size, then takes it anyway.
That’s what she said…
I hope everyone has a great day; I know I will!F-053_EC_May2017_RE_rev
I’m unable to insert a photo into the pdf document, jpg, bmp, or tif. I’m using Acrobat 9.0, and every time I try to copy into the photo area, a new acrobat window opens with the photo as a pdf file. If I try to cut and paste, no ability to paste into the area.
Help, please.
- Posted by: Tyler Parsons
F-053_EC_May2017_RE_rev
I’m unable to insert a photo into the pdf document, jpg, bmp, or tif. I’m using Acrobat 9.0, and every time I try to copy into the photo area, a new acrobat window opens with the photo as a pdf file. If I try to cut and paste, no ability to paste into the area.
Help, please.
With Acrobat XI you just click in the photo area and it will pop up with a file window for you to select the photo to attach. If Acrobat 9.0 does not work that way, I would suggest downloading the free Acrobat Reader which should allow you to insert photos also. I don’t currently have Acrobat Reader installed so I can’t test but that’s how the last version I created worked.
Got a “clean” copy of the EC. Now when I click to insert a photo, it works. Adobe Reader DC 2018. Thanks for the help
Cell phone photo workaround (for an iphone at least) is to email yourself the pic directly from the phone. It gives you the option to reduced the size or send full. I found that out after having EC forms get out of control HUGE!
No they didn’t.
I’ve been reading everyones workarounds w/ inserting photos, but the FEMA form still will not accept them. Adobe Reader 2018.009.
Message says its “unsupported format or damaged, blah blah blah”. The image files must be OK because I can open them in every other viewer- Paint, Irfanview, Windows Photo….
Resorting to cut/paste w/ glue stick!
But really need to get this worked out. Was much smoother when they used Word document.
- Posted by: lanceboyle93101
No they didn’t.
I’ve been reading everyones workarounds w/ inserting photos, but the FEMA form still will not accept them. Adobe Reader 2018.009.
Message says its “unsupported format or damaged, blah blah blah”. The image files must be OK because I can open them in every other viewer- Paint, Irfanview, Windows Photo….
Resorting to cut/paste w/ glue stick!
But really need to get this worked out. Was much smoother when they used Word document.
What type of images are you using? I had issues with jpgs resized by Paint, but using Windows Photo to do a save-as fixed them. I’ve read that there are so many iterations of some of these formats that it’s nearly impossible to support all of them. Might be worth doing a save-as from what you have to something different. Png seems to be the current default for Win10 so maybe that would be more likely to work.
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