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SPMPLS
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March 7, 2017 2:16 pm  

Because the insurance company paid you off for the stolen unit, I believe they are now the owners of that unit as found. It's like having a car totalled, you get paid off for the appraised value at the time it got wrecked. If you want to still own the car with a salvaged title, you can buy it from the insurance company for much less than what they would have paid you originally and they will deduct that amount from your payout. They aren't in the business of owning total loss vehicles if they don't have to. Perhaps your insurer is willing to work something similar, but I think it would be based on the value of the unit as it is today, and unlike a car, that might be a little hard for them to determine.

Good luck.


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Richard
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March 7, 2017 2:17 pm  

From Australia. John a long time back I moved house and did it progressively over a few weeks.
Owner of new place let us store things in a shed that I locked.
Amongst the gear was an extensive tool set. Quality stuff.
It went "missing".
I reported it to the police, all very awkward as it implied owners may have been involved, but it was a farm so much coming and going.
I asked insurance company about it and they said to lodge a claim which I did and they paid.

Later after moving in and starting to unpack the "missing" items became uncovered! Oops!
I contacted the insurers who accepted it was a genuine mistake but also accepted they'd paid out on a claim which was now history.
That was 1987. 30 years later might be viewed differently.


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John Hamilton
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March 7, 2017 2:24 pm  

I had also heard that if a stolen piece of equipment is recovered after payout, the insurance company will try to sell it. Hopefully they don't want to be bothered and will make me a deal I can't refuse.

John Hamilton
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John Hamilton
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March 7, 2017 2:25 pm  

I was able to find his full name and a picture on facebook by putting in the cell number I have for him. So I do have that.

John Hamilton
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LRDay
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March 7, 2017 5:49 pm  

There is an R10 on ebay says........

this trimble r10 is used but haved new conditions same you can see at the Pictures.... charger not included....bought at a pawn shop....

I'm actually looking for one but but wouldn't touch this one unless the S# was checked and its not stolen.


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March 7, 2017 6:04 pm  

FWIW,

I would certainly not meet up with the thief alone especially now that you have received your settlement. I share you hard feelings about such events. I would be afraid that my temper would get the better of me.

Good luck,

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Nate The Surveyor
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March 7, 2017 6:18 pm  

Personally, I'd get good pics of him, and his car, and all. Not necessarily with his knowledge and consent.

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March 7, 2017 7:00 pm  

Richard, post: 417389, member: 833 wrote: From Australia. John a long time back I moved house and did it progressively over a few weeks.
Owner of new place let us store things in a shed that I locked.
Amongst the gear was an extensive tool set. Quality stuff.
It went "missing".
I reported it to the police, all very awkward as it implied owners may have been involved, but it was a farm so much coming and going.
I asked insurance company about it and they said to lodge a claim which I did and they paid.

Later after moving in and starting to unpack the "missing" items became uncovered! Oops!
I contacted the insurers who accepted it was a genuine mistake but also accepted they'd paid out on a claim which was now history.
That was 1987. 30 years later might be viewed differently.

I had a friend, my party chief at the time, back in the late 70's. He went to his buddies apartment and asked if he could park his Camero in his garage while they went out drinking. Came back the next morning and open the garage; Camero gone! turn it into insurance, buy a Bronco II. 6 months later someone rents a garage and says; does this come with a Camero? He'd parked it in the wrong garage...

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rberry5886
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March 9, 2017 1:45 pm  

LRDay, post: 417416, member: 571 wrote: There is an R10 on ebay says........

this trimble r10 is used but haved new conditions same you can see at the Pictures.... charger not included....bought at a pawn shop....

I'm actually looking for one but but wouldn't touch this one unless the S# was checked and its not stolen.

It looks like another R10 has basically the same description except about the pawn shop...


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September 24, 2017 10:07 am  

John Hamilton, post: 417380, member: 640 wrote: Now I have a problem...It looks like I am getting the unit back, a buddy of mine In Tulsa called to say that someone went in to a survey company there trying to sell an R10. He had a name and a phone number of the person. I called him. He said he found it. First I asked him how much he wanted, he said a few thousand. He said he found it exactly where it was taken from, in the weeds on a certain street, etc. I told him it was mine, that it had been stolen. He asked if I could prove it was mine, I told him the serial number, which he said was scratched off. He said it used to turn on but now doesn't (dead battery). He also said it still has the GSM card in it, but of course I cancelled that. So, I offered him a $250 reward for finding it. He hemmed and hawed, but agreed. So my buddy is going to get it tomorrow.

So what is my problem? I received an insurance settlement and bought a replacement (used). The replacement has modem issues (as I posted about extensively). I don't know if my old unit is in good working condition, or if it has the same issues with the modem, but if it is in good shape I would rather have it back. I called my insurance claim rep, she wasn't sure what would happen but said I could return the insurance money, which of course I don't have because I bought the replacement unit, etc.

Anyone knows what they usually do in situations like this? If it works, I would be happy to get mine back and give the replacement to the insurance company. My rep is going to call the actual insurers to see what is done.

Sorry to revive an old thread but this is interesting to me. If a stranger had something of mine and asked me to prove it was mine I'd say "How the hell did you think I knew to call YOU about it?" Anyway, I'd be absolutely ruthless with this guy and call the police on him. No payout, no nothing. Even if he offered to give it back free of charge I'd try to have him arrested. Thieves are the scum of the earth and I think this guy knew exactly what he was doing.

Also, did you get the receiver back? What ended up happening?


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Nate The Surveyor
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September 24, 2017 12:31 pm  

I wonder... Is Trimble, or anybody else equipped with any theft prevention? Like a mechanism to track it forevever?
I wish all of them were set up to "call home" once in a while. Through the satellites, or through the internet. Maybe through opus.
Javad just released "base guard". If your base gets moved, it notifies the rover.
It's a step in the right direction. But I wish they had a device through dpos, or opus, that looks for stolen equipment, when it goes online.
Base guard will really help when somebody moves your base... Like a horse.. Or thief. But a long term theft prevention device would really be good.
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John Hamilton
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September 25, 2017 5:34 am  

I did get it back, my buddy who lives in Tulsa went to meet they guy and got it back for me. Using his cell phone number (which he gave to the surveyor he was trying to sell it to) I found the guy on facebook. He was not the person i suspected of stealing it, this guy was older, but I reckon it was probably his nephew or something like that.

The Tulsa police were not at all interested in helping in any way when this happened, so i doubt they would have done anything.

The receiver was setup to send its position to me via email when turned on, but that could be defeated by removing the SIM card.

I absolutely believe they could easily build in to the $25K receiver a way to "phone home". Maybe it is not in their best interest to do so. Once one is stolen, the owner typically gets an insurance payout and then buys another one. Cynical? Yes I am.

John Hamilton
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Nate The Surveyor
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October 24, 2017 4:27 am  

Another thing... Actual hardware costs, of a reciever... Is not much. Maybe 500 or 750$.
So, most of the cost of new equipment is r&d.
So, why should a mfr.add hardware, that will add to the base cost to the mfr. AND cut them out of additional sales, due to insurance settlements?

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chris mills
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October 24, 2017 8:27 am  

John Hamilton, post: 390073, member: 640 wrote: When I called the police the 911 operator asked if it was stolen from a vehicle, I said no, and she said I had to fill out an online report, that they could not come for a larceny. Only after I said I was following the suspected perpetrators did they agree to send a car there. Four cars showed up.

I had a similar situation a few years back. Working down of the south coast of England we had an R6 taken. Same story from the local police - they only had targets for preventing crime, not for recovering property. After a few hours of our own detective work (the unit was taken from next to a large DIY store so we could view CCTV footage and the store checked out what the thief had brought from them) we managed to trace the vehicle involved to some building work going on a couple of mile away.
Called the police again - same response. So we gave them a target - promised to break down the house door in five minutes and recover the gear ourselves. Immediate appearance of two cars. We got the gear back AND the court awarded us a days fees for the time we lost.


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