Trimble Access: Stake Line
Greetings.
Is there a way to configure Trimble Access to display come/go and left/right when staking a line? I have those options selected, but it seems to only apply to staking a point. On the attached image, the green line is a line I have brushed from the gun to intersect true line. When Access tells me the perpendicular move relative to true line, it doesn’t help much.
TIA
-Jeff
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you could calculate a point at the intersection of the true line and the azimuth from the instrument point to the line then stake that point.
Had to launch Access to remember the steps…
Cogo menu
Compute point
Method: Brng-brng intersect
Point 1: (select a point on the true line)
Azimuth: (arrow over to Calculator)
(Soft key at bottom, select Azimuth)
(Between two points)
From point (a point on the true line)
To point (a second point on the true line)
[mentally confirm your azimuth is the right direction and not the opposite direction]
Accept calculated AzimuthPoint 2: (Input instrument point number0
Azimuth: (Turn instrument toward direction you want to go, input displayed Azimuth)
Calc & Store
I feel your pain. We just keep hunting for the line.
calculating a point to stake out is too much trouble standing on a steep setup trying not to slide down the hill while trying to get around the brush.
You can stake to a station/offset although normally I don’t care about exact station on the line.
TDS and Carlson automatically do it that way, distance in or out to line from the instrument.
I typically use the stationing on the line to get a mental visual with the offset to get a better idea of where I am in relationship to it and reverse the point numbers defining the line to reverse the stationing to know when I’m close to overshooting it. Sort of a mental pythagorean theorem.
Willy
Survey Pro is another product that Trimble owns. I’ve had recent experience with both SP and Access. I find it frustrating how each of the two have certain handy little things that the other could very easily incorporate, but don’t.
One example of that is Access’s “Shoot a round object” function, where you shoot a reflectorless distance to the center face of a tree, then turn the angle off to the edge of it. The distance to the center is calculated and recorded. As a bonus, the radius of the object is displayed. Survey Pro won’t do that (I know all about the SP’s function that does exactly the opposite – distance to the side then turn angle to the center). Why the can’t add that to SP is beyond me.
Conversely, SP’s stake to line function gives you not only the left/ right offset to the staked line, but also gives a go/come on your sight line bearing to the intersection point. I wasn’t actually aware that Access would not do that, but find it sad that it seems one is forced to do COGO gymnastics to achieve it.
I can only speak as a Survey Pro user that they are inexplicably stuck in their ways and will perpetuate known issues through updates ad nauseum
If I understand well you can exactly do so by configuring stakeout in the survey style for conventional and your GNSS survey styles as follows:
As-Staked point details Section: All my settings as Deafault
DISPLAY Section (That??s what we need)
Display Mode: SURVEYOR CENTERED
Display Orientation: DIRECTION OF TRAVEL
Deltas (points): Distances
Deltas (other): STATION AND OFFSET will give you dist from startpoint of line (Negative if you,re not between start and end point but befaore start point) AND your OFFSET to the line (positive if you??re on the right side)
tolerances: make your own choice
Use TRK for Stakeout: YES
choose for Stakeout TO THE LINE
During Stakeout you can finetune Display Settings via the OPTIONS buttonwe allready used these settings on the old TSCe 15 yrs ago.
Hope that helps.
chr.
@norman-oklahoma
it will stake to a line. The readout gives distance right or left of line and station which is the useful way to do it for RTK, not so great for total station. I convert it to go east or west or north or south 4 tenths. If it’s several feet then rod has to find a new opening somewhere.
Christ details a setup below but don’t know if that achieves what’s wanted.
Access has an aggravating thing where the columns are too narrow in the display of residuals after rounds. I have to drag them over. I asked them to fix that five years ago, still nothing.
DISPLAY Section (That??s what we need)
Display Mode: SURVEYOR CENTERED
Display Orientation: DIRECTION OF TRAVEL
These must apply to GNSS?
I have the instrument config set to “target perspective” and “in/out and left/right”
Regardless of how I set these options, I get a station/offset when I measure a point.
Thanks everyone for your advice.
I checked both SurveyStyles for conventional and for GNSS and the exact words my be different depending on your version of the software.
You really need to choose “StakeOut” and “To the Line”, then with the options button you can override the settings in your Survey Style. That’s the way to go looking for what you exactly need. Once you got that you can modify your SurveyStyle according to that, from that moment on these will be your defaults when staking lines.
Chr.
I am using Access v2020. Try creating a polyline and staking it out. From the map screen pick the two end points then pick and hold on the screen. You should get Key In Polyline. When I stake out the PLine I get go In/Out and Left/Right to the line. Under options my Display Mode is set to In/out and left/right, Deltas is set to Distances. I hope this gets you what you are looking for.
This is for a total station. Different view if you use a PLine over a regular line. I do not get in and out with a regular line.
There is an option for ‘explode polylines’
Then they work like separately selectable line segments
@frank-frazer That might be the issue. I’m running 2017.24 on a TSC3 and it appears I can only create a regular line.
And you have to adjust the stake out display settings in both survey-styles: GNSS and Conventional.
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