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dmyhill
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Six figure, salary, vertical steel erection for 14 floor convention center. Paid parking, offset for commuting. 

We are building a survey team from the ground up. 

Would involve working with Survey Manager and the project engineer to provide support for the construction effort, asbuilts, etc. Would be focused on this site, but might involve other sites in the future.

If interested, please call(two oh six) 947 - 4 two 4 six

We can arrange a visit to the site.

https://app.oxblue.com/open/clarkconstruction/washstatecc

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Scheuman3
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Where is this located?

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@scheuman3

Mr. Myhill resides in the Greater Seattle area.

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@scheuman3

 

Sorry it took so long to get back to you, the project is in Seattle.

We are looking to hire long term Project Surveyors that want to travel, and I am also looking to hire people specifically for this project. 

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According to the link, it looks to be Seattle.

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This is prevailing wage in King County:

County Trade Job Classification Wage Holiday Overtime Note *Risk Class
King Surveyors Assistant Construction Site Surveyor $68.02 7A 3K 8X View
King Surveyors Chainman $65.05 7A 3K 8X View
King Surveyors Construction Site Surveyor $69.16 7A 3K 8X View

 

I think I would rather have the chainman job

$135k+ a year ain't bad for a chainman...

L&I website

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@dougie  no kidding.... sure wasn't the rate that CH2M-Hill offered me 20 years ago to work in Seattle. 

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The trick is: The project needs to have Federal Money in it...

Your not going to make this doing lot surveys.

 

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@dougie  I don't think CH2M Hill was doing too many lot surveys!   😉    but maybe they weren't union? 

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In WA, there is a law that states that government money means one of two things for a surveyor: Prevailing Wage (Construction), or Request for Qualifications with rates to be negotiated in good faith.

Do you have low bid requests for topo work...yes...is it legal? You can read the law and decide.

But, being Union has nothing to do with it. And most public works projects are covered by a PLA or Project Labor Agreement or the like. Certainly those done in Seattle will have a PLA.

And, unlike Davis Bacon, being management or a licensed professional doesn't get you out of the Prevailing Wage in Washington. That got fought over about 10 years ago when the prevailing wage tug of war was won by the unions (unions essentially set the prevailing wage).

 

 

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Tim V. PLS
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@dougie or state money.

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@tim-v-pls

Project also has to be in construction phase to activate federal Davis-Bacon Act or state Little Davis-Bacon Act.  So design surveys during design phase are typically not paid prevailing wage.

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@dougie

clarification on pay rates: the wage rate listed are total compensation including benefits. Around $18.40 of the wage rate is for health insurance, retirement, 401k type account. Pay rate for a chainman would be $46.65. A person classified as "Chainman" is always the 3rd person for a crew so is typically not used.

For total compensation an employer could pay a "Construction Site Surveyor" $40.00 in wages and $29.16 in benefits as long as the total is $69.16. Benefits have to be bonafide, that is, not something that can be changed. Examples of non-bonafide would be a 401k benefit that is dependent of length of employment, or health insurance that vests in 90 days.

Prevailing wage rates are tied to, but not always identical to, Operating Engineers wage rates. IUOE Local 302 rates and be found here:

hmm... link isn't working.

go to http://www.iuoe302.org/

Click on: Recent 302 Contracts
Select: WA AGC Construction Site Surveyors-Wage & Fringe Benefits Schedule 2018-2021

 

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You are correct @tim-v-pls

I didn't add all the loop hole, mumbo-jumbo; but the big picture: it's nice for the employee, a PITA for the employer.

  • What crew gets sent to the PW job?
  • How much of the day is travel time?
  • Were they in a company truck?
  • Did they work on any other job that day (none PW)?

 

The list goes on...

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