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Richard Imrie
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February 12, 2018 9:55 pm  

I've got a spray bottle of 303 Aerospace Protectant that the interlore says is the cat's for UV protection. I've been using it quite a bit, on survey gear, vehicle trim and vehicle accessories. Not sure if it works, as its hard to make a comparison, but I do see that things I've applied it to haven't shown any issues. One thing I do note is that this stuff on plastics leaves the surface (permanently, from what I can see so far) very slippery, the stuff seems so slick it could make a statue s**t.

The other thing of note is that on the back it gives directions about this and that but there is also a specific paragraph that says: "Warning: This product contains chemical(s) known to the State of California to cause cancer and birth defects or other reproductive harm".

Is this a realistic warning, or something specific to "coverall" California liability issues, like the recent advent of anything that can be ingested carrying a warning "may contain traces of nuts"?


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Jim Frame
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February 12, 2018 10:20 pm  

Is this a realistic warning, or something specific to "coverall" California liability issues

It's realistic in the sense that you probably ought not to ingest, inhale or bathe in the product at hand, but it's specifically intended to comply with a state law voted in as Proposition 65 many years ago.  Pretty much anything that's not health food is required to carry the Prop 65 warning verbiage, and there are probably some products that carry the warning despite an absence of any pertinent substances just to discourage litigation.

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Davis, CA 95616


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Richard Imrie
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February 12, 2018 10:26 pm  

Great, thanks for that explanation. I was considering stopping using it, but will use the appropriate PPE and carry on with it.


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Rankin_File
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February 13, 2018 4:26 am  

I had the same warning on a plumb bob once, and a garden hose, and....

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Nate The Surveyor
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February 13, 2018 4:30 am  

What I'd suggest is to live near one if the borders of Calif. This way, you can drive OVER the boundary, spray, or otherwise use the product, then, quickly slip back over the line, into Calif.

This will keep you from harm.

(it's ONLY known to cause harm in Calif.)

This way, you will be safe.

N

Edited: 3 months  ago

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Dave Karoly
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February 13, 2018 7:02 am  

Aw, the Prop 65 Warning, the stupidest proposition on the books and that's saying something. I voted no.

every store, every hotel you walk into has the prop 65 warning.

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mkennedy
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February 13, 2018 12:19 pm  

I found one safety sheet that specifically said it didn't have any ingredients that were listed on the Prop 65 list. I managed to find another:

https://www.trivantage.com/itemfiles/pdfs/msds/303_Aerospace_Protectant_MSDS.pdf

That does say one of the proprietary ingredients is on the list as a carcinogen. It also has beefed up section about eye irritation hazards compared to the first MSDS that I looked at.

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Richard Imrie
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February 13, 2018 12:31 pm  

Thanks for that info. It appears that the offending constituent is "Proprietary" so we wont know what it actually is.


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Loyal
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February 13, 2018 12:36 pm  

I remember reading something a few years ago about ladders and all of the "safety warning stickers" that had to be applied thereto.

Basically...the cost of the stickers AND the cost of applying them, rivaled the cost of  actually manufacturing the frick'in ladder.

Of course you can't believe everything you read (except on the Internet of course).

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Andy Bruner
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February 13, 2018 2:48 pm  

It's been a while but I believe I read (on a MSDS) that spray WD40 could not be sold in California. 


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Richard Imrie
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February 13, 2018 4:17 pm  

I read recently on the internet (in a BMW car forum) that the WD in WD40 stands for Water Dispersant - i.e. I think someone was trying to point out it isn't a lubricant (and perhaps not a rust inhibitor). Didn't know that, and not sure if it's true.


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February 13, 2018 4:43 pm  
Posted by: Loyal

I remember reading something a few years ago about ladders and all of the "safety warning stickers" that had to be applied thereto.

Basically...the cost of the stickers AND the cost of applying them, rivaled the cost of  actually manufacturing the frick'in ladder.

Of course you can't believe everything you read (except on the Internet of course).

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I don't think I would want to buy a ladder that could be manufactured at the same cost as half a dozen stickers+stick-on time. Call me overcautious.


A Harris
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February 13, 2018 5:35 pm  

WD40 is banned around my stuff.

The only  purpose that I find acceptable is to spray the inside of a distributor when filled with condensation.

I find it a temporary fix at best, I use Remington Oil for most applications.

When something is really seized up, I use Break Free.

My 1989 F150 Ford Mountain Edition 4WD came from Oregon and was qualified to be legal to drive in California.

That was correct until the catalytic converter stopped up and was gutted and the muffler replaced with a maxiflo style.

I doubt any of my vehicles would pass the Califorinia inspection examination.

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Andy Bruner
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February 14, 2018 3:08 am  

WD40 has multiple uses around my house.  Removing the sticky goo left after a decal or sticker is removed.  Road tar (actually asphalt) just runs off after a spray.  Oiling hard to get at hinges (yes I know it will have to be redone in a few months).  I DO NOT use it on any firearms. Break Free or G96 only.

Andy 


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