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Steven Metelski
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September 9, 2018 8:40 am  

I am currently licensed in NJ. I would like to apply for a license in ny. Has anyone here taken the exam in the past two years? I'm looking for a study guide that does not involve hundreds of dollars and driving to a two day seminar. It sounds snobby, but my time is budgeted to the minute for the foreseeable future. I can study at home at night. I just need to be pointed in the right direction.

 

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leegreen
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September 9, 2018 4:39 pm  

Yes,

It is unlike any exam you have ever taken. Open book, but you'd never be able to bring enough books. Blacks law is most useful. The time limit is just two hours, so not much time for books anyway. Dr. Joseph Paiva along with NYSAPLS has created a review course and a binder folder he compiled of books as suggested reference material. If you time constrained then you may be better off buying the binder than attending the class, as all he does is read it out loud. To be honest not really much of the folder was applicable to my exam. It appears they may have written the exam around his course, making his material not as useful. I know a lot of people taking the exam 2, 3, 5 times.

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lsitnj
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September 9, 2018 10:27 pm  

As Lee suggested: Blacks Law and Definition of surveying terms --you basically must have these two  books with you at the time of taking the exam. Dr. Paiva's binder will give you general idea of what to expect on the exam. I found the information contained in the binder useful.

If you are familiar with what's in it and where to look for stuff, you might be lucky and find the answers quickly. As Lee said, not much time for books. I had to take the exam twice..missed it by 1 question..English is not my 1st language. You'll be fine. Good luck. 


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Sergeant Schultz
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September 10, 2018 4:23 am  
Posted by: leegreen

............I know a lot of people taking the exam 2, 3, 5 times.

I submit that if you have to take it 3 times, or gods forbid, 5, maybe you're not equipped to be stampin' drawings...

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P_Bob
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September 10, 2018 7:20 am  

I took it 8 years ago, but I will give credit to Dr. Paiva's review course through NYSAPLS was what helped me pass it.  The binder had alot of useful information in it and I used it for many questions.  Blacks Law and Browns was also my go to during the exam.  He gave alot of useful tips on how to prepare.  But this was 8 years ago and one of his first years teaching the review.  I will tell you, whatever books/materials you take in, make sure you've read them and know where information is.  There is definitely not enough time to search through books looking for answers, you need to have a good idea where it is located.


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Nburg
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September 10, 2018 7:35 am  

I believe that Pavia's course was very helpful for me, if you can not make the course than buy the binder from NYSAPLS website. I would also recommend buying some of the other books that are state specific on the NYSAPLS website as well. I found them to be quite helpful during the exam. Another book that I think should be bought anyway is the Ken Ayers highway law book that is specific to NY. https://www.theayerslawfirm.com/publications.php

All of these were helpful to me when taking the exam and if you plan on practicing in NY they can be helpful down the road as well for reference material. I did a lot of tabbing and highlighting of the books that I brought in which were all of the state specific books from NYSAPLS, the Pavia binder, ACSM Definitions of Surveying and Associated Terms, Blacks, and Browns Boundary Control and Legal Principles.  


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September 10, 2018 9:00 am  

I've no idea what version of the test Lee Green took, but when I took it 5 or 6 years ago, Pavia's handbook was very useful.


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September 10, 2018 9:37 am  

Have you applied to take the exam yet?  I think it took over a year for the approval process.  So you'll probably have plenty of time to study.


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September 11, 2018 12:47 pm  

I took it back in 2005. I had Pavia's binder, but I don't remember if it helped. I seem to remember  a lot of ethics questions. 


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leegreen
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September 11, 2018 2:46 pm  

That's is my experience also. Paiva focused a lot on ROW and Canals, with very little on Ethics.

The exam appeared to be the exact opposite. But that could change.

The NYS State Board of EDU has an online Ethics test, be sure to use that as a study guide.

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Dan Dunn
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September 12, 2018 7:58 am  

I know you are looking for people who took the exam with in the last 2 years and Lee is you best resource there.

I took the NY specific almost 30 years ago. Other than the time allotted, 50 questions in 1 hour when I took it now you have 2 hours, the basic format of the exam has not changed.

What you need to know is while some aspects of the two states are similar, there are some aspects that are very different.

New York and New Jersey handle roads very differently. The breakdown of political divisions into Counties, Towns and municipalities are very different. When a Village forms in NY it is still part of the Town (NYC is a whole different world), in NJ it is independent of the parent Township. In NJ map filing requirements are controlled at the state level. In NY the requirements are controlled at the county level.  And the list goes on.

I've lived on both sides of the state line and went to college in NY and it was still a lot to learn.  Contact NYSAPLS and get all the study material they have.  You may want to consider attending the NYSAPLS Conference in Saratoga Springs this year. They are offering quite a few courses on NY specific topics and you can use it to fulfill some of your NJ continuing ed requirements.

Like Lee said "It is unlike any exam you have ever taken." you need to know the material before you enter the test, you will not have time to look it up during the test.

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Steven Metelski
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September 14, 2018 7:25 am  
Posted by: JPH

Have you applied to take the exam yet?  I think it took over a year for the approval process.  So you'll probably have plenty of time to study.

I'm going to try and get my app in before the November deadline so I can test in 2019.

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leegreen
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September 14, 2018 7:44 am  
Posted by: Steven Metelski
Posted by: JPH

Have you applied to take the exam yet?  I think it took over a year for the approval process.  So you'll probably have plenty of time to study.

I'm going to try and get my app in before the November deadline so I can test in 2019.

Or 2020. 

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Nburg
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September 14, 2018 9:56 am  

I got my application in by the October 2016 deadline and was able to take the test in April of 2017. The application process is not fun and I had to call the education department a bunch of times to find out the status.

I would recommend getting it in earlier than the deadline, and not wait till the last day. You are more likely to get a response back sooner, most likely most people, including myself wait to the last minute to get the application in and then they are flooded with applications.


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