Northwestern Michigan College Adds Surveying Program
Appropriately-named Traverse City, Michigan's Northwestern Michigan College now offers a Surveying Engineering program. The new degree was approved unanimously by the NMC Board of Trustees on Monday, December 17, 2018 and will be in place for the fall 2019 semester.
The surveying degree is complemented by existing marine technology and unmanned aerial systems programs. The college is now able to offer students degrees in all three programs, which is apparently unique among community colleges across the country.
For more information, view the full announcement at the Traverse City Record Eagle's website.
My son just graduated from there, BS, Marine Technology (also unusual to find BS available at community college). Out to sea next month with Fugro job surveying for offshore wind farms. Some growing pains with new programs, but overall we highly recommend.
The college website has not yet been updated.
It is interesting to note that this is an Associate Degree program and Michigan requires a bachelors with 30 surveying credits, plus 4 years experience for licensing. At the same time one can apply directly to NCEES to take the PLS exam (the MI PLS part not being administered by NCEES) prior to applying to the State of Michigan.Therefore one could be degreed and fully tested and not be approved for licensing.
It is interesting to note they have Marine and Maritime associates programs.
Paul in PA
This is good news.
I am an advocate for Associate Degree programs at the community college level. We need more people involved in surveying and it is not gonna come via a 4 year degree. I am fully aware that some states mandate a 4 year degree and that is fine if they choose to do that. I do feel like it is slamming the door on a lot of good people. I am of the opinion that the pay is not there in surveying to justify a spending a small fortune obtaining a BS. Unless and until surveyors charge more in order to pay more I cannot see much demand for a 4 Year surveying degree. Georgia went through this a few years ago and all the people in the state who are "somebodies" (the influential people) was wringing their hands in anguish wailing and gnashing their teeth about the need to have a mandated 4 year degree because Florida, South Carolina and Alabama required it. Now they are relaxing the standards because the numbers of candidates applying to take the test has cratered. I have heard similar stories from those other states as well that their numbers have fallen and talk of them lowering the standards. Pay them and they will come.
Thank you Duane,
I believe they have miss-stated their program, it is not "Professional Development" but is "Technical Development" which is a good use for community college level program. Below I have listed the 10 topics they have highlighted. Assuming each is a 3 credit courses, that would be 30 credits meeting the Michigan PLS exam requirements, yet I think that a graduate of this program is far from ready to be a PLS and what is required would not neccessarily be gained with 4 years experience. All these courses are technical in subject, the true professional has to be well rounded and requires Geodesy and Legal Aspects ability. Michigan is a Public Lands state, yet that too is not included.
- Fundamentals of Land Surveying
- Conventional Surveying Techniques
- GNSS Positioning Techniques (Operations & Datums)
- Surveying Data Processing, Adjustments and Imaging
- Route Surveying (Roads, Rails, Bridges)
- Pipeline Surveying (Manifests, Tally, Cataloging Observations)
- Precision Leveling & Integration of Surveying Measurements
- Boundary Surveying for the New Surveyor
- Forensic Mapping for Law Enforcement
- High Definition Scanning
What it is is a darn good start on getting individuals on a professional career path.
It would be good to see what all courses are transferable to Ferris State or Michigan Tech's 4 year programs.
Paul in PA