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hpalmer
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February 3, 2019 11:53 am  

Cheapskate - I think not.  Everyone needs to know the history of 'Quicken' and QuickPay and QuickBooks.  Used to be you could put the annual tax constants in for Federal and State taxes but when the originator of Quicken sold to a group of investors, they unbundled payroll and now charge you close to $400 annually to change a few constants.  Not to mention 'forcing' you to provide them your credit card information so they can automatically bill you the next year for updates.

Intuit borders on unfair practices for what they have done with the software.  

I have been waiting for years for someone to come up with a program that competes with QuickBooks.

 


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Shelby H. Griggs PLS
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February 3, 2019 5:45 pm  

@jim-frame you might try creating a "new" company in Peachtree, bring your balances forward for 01-Jan-2019 and see if it works. We use an old beyond EOL copy of MyMoney for the personal side and had to do that because I think the files got too big. Seems to work fine still, it just quit working one day with the old files.

SHG

PLS CA, ID, NV, OR, WA
Commercial Vehicle Driver


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Shelby H. Griggs PLS
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February 3, 2019 5:48 pm  

@hpalmer yes Intuit seems to be "market leader", and may technically work with the numbers OK, BUT what a kludge piece of software that doesn't even conform to Windows standards. We have looked, alas there doesn't seem to be much to replace it for small businesses or personal users.

SHG

PLS CA, ID, NV, OR, WA
Commercial Vehicle Driver


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LRDay
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February 3, 2019 5:54 pm  

I've been on Quickbooks Pro for almost 20 years.  You can get a desktop version so you don't need the online if you don't want that.  Its $220 or so but I usually go 2 or 3 years between upgrades.  For me its worth it just to be able to  download bank accounts etc.  You can also scan in receipts if you want to.  I'm fairly basic, it will probably do a lot more than I've used ( i do have three different simple business but all under me as owner, finally got rid of all the LLC's and such).  I don't do any payroll so that makes things simpler.

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THE MULE
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February 4, 2019 4:13 am  

I have been using Medlin. com software for many years.  My Brother, who ran a bookkeeping service got me started.  Up until now I have used an accountant for my tax return.  The accountant accepts Medlin.  IRS accepts Medlin.  I use payroll and accounting.  I do not use accounts receivable, because I do not track accounts receivable. You can try Medlin without paying, unless you like it.  It it saleable, just buy the part you want.


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John Putnam
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February 4, 2019 6:53 am  

I've been using Quickbooks Premier for 20 years now and would love to find something else.  The problem is that they seem to have a monopoly on the market.  My accountant has the same feeling, he once mentioned that every time he finds a better software, Intuit buys them out and kills it.

I use it for everything from cost estimates to invoicing.  My main problem with them is the database access.  First, when I had a gaggle of employees, some of whom needed access to various part of the program, everyone had to have Premier to access the database.  And don't get me started about the lack of support for our one Mac user.  Next, the customized reporting is terrible.  Try getting a report an invoices paid in given year sorted by state.  I understand that the Enterprise version be better at it but I'm not going to pay as much for my accounting software annually as I do for my C3D.

As @hpalmer pointed out, the price for payroll is out of control.   I found another online solution, 'esmartpaycheck' which works great and e-files tax for about $50 buck a year.

John Putnam, PLS
OR, CA, WA & ID


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Jim Frame
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February 4, 2019 7:45 am  

you might try creating a "new" company in Peachtree, bring your balances forward for 01-Jan-2019 and see if it works

I thought of that initially, but since I had the same problem with a test company I had set up years ago (and thus was barely used, containing few entries) I didn't explore that idea.  However, last night I decided to give it a try, and when I tried to import the job list from the broken company the import choked, noting that it couldn't find a certain file (I forget the name).  I looked in the company folder and verified that the file wasn't there, so I opened one of the daily backups from late last year, copied the file from there to the current company folder, and *voila* it worked!

I think I'll try to run both Peachtree and Wave side-by-side for awhile to see if I want to make the transition badly enough to get used to Wave, but it's nice to have the familiar user interface available again.

Thanks, Shelby!

Jim Frame
Frame Surveying & Mapping
609 A Street
Davis, CA 95616
framesurveying.com


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RPlumb314
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February 4, 2019 10:24 am  
Posted by: A Harris

I keep a cash ledger and keep up with my invoices in files folders "Due" & "PAID" and everything else goes into a box until it is time to load TurboTax Home and Office and enter the totals.

I used DacEasyLite accounting and was very happy with it until the millennium bug ended its use.

They are still somewhere, just have not tracked it down exactly.

I do something similar to that, with the aid of Excel for addition, subtraction, and sorting entries by date. 2003 is the best version of Excel; too many bells and whistles on the later ones. Office 2003 is about $20 on E-bay, and will run on Windows 7. Don't know about later OS's.

It's even possible to use Excel to run a complete set of double-entry books. The theory behind double-entry bookkeeping isn't very complex, although software vendors hope that it remains a mystery to most people.

Quickbooks runs a double-entry system in the background, to my knowledge. In all probability other brands of accounting software do that as well.

John Chaffee
LS 15228 MN


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Shelby H. Griggs PLS
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February 4, 2019 3:58 pm  

@jim-frame glad my idea worked or gave clue to what might be wrong.

SHG

PLS CA, ID, NV, OR, WA
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